This past issue of Leg Show? Volume 1, issue #2, 1962 has a "Special" feature on "Men Who Wear Female Attire" -- and after all these years learning about crossdressers, I'd love to know how sensitive and/or accurate this vintage article may have been... Perhaps, Silent Porn Star knows or can find out? She has been interviewing the vintage fetish magazine's editor, Irv O. Neil...
Sunday, June 09, 2013
Friday, May 17, 2013
National Corset Week History
A vintage National Corset Week store window (via), sometime after 1952, when the British industry introduced the advertising week. Don't be confused by all the girdles; they were just considered the "new corsets" then. More National Corset Week history is here.
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Monday, April 29, 2013
Vintage Lingerie Love
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Sunday, April 28, 2013
"Sold Designs To" Means What?
When discussing that vintage Vandermere by Olga nightgown, that "sold designs too" phrase proved an ambiguous one -- complicating things. Marilyn, of Midnight Glamour, and I had the following exchange to prove it! With her permission, I am sharing it here -- because we both think it would be helpful to others in understanding not only vintage Vandermere and Olga lingerie, but in terms of using registered identification numbers (RNs) for identifying lingerie makers, dating purposes, etc.
Marilyn wrote:
To which I replied:
Marilyn replied:
As you can see, we agree!
What this comes down to his how you fine the "designs" in "sold designs to". Do you mean "designs" as the intellectual property (i.e. copyrights of pattern designs) or "designs" as actual garments (pieces of inventory); that's the question.
In the case of Olga and Vandermere, we are talking about Olga (then part of Warnaco) having sold actual garments to Vandermere (aka J.C. Penney's); the nightgown designs in terms of patterns & intellectual property remained with Olga (and Warnaco). In which case, Dixie Dallas's statement that "When Olga sold her gown design copyrights, it was to Vandemeer Lingerie" is incorrect.
I hope our little talk helps you discover more about vintage lingerie!
Marilyn wrote:
I just read this on your blog:
Sadly, I have not as of yet been able to track down definitive proof of the actual relationship between Olga and Vandermere; I continue to hunt for it. (Another research item on the list! lol)
Here is the proof. This is the link to the Federal Trade Commissions site. Every manufacturer has to have an RN number on their clothing that is manufactured by that company as that is the law & they have to register their company with the Federal Trade Commission in order to sell garments.
See this link: https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/textilern/wrnquery$.startup
Olga's RN number is 19090
[Search results for RN number 1909]
The same number is on many Vandemere gowns (the Olga-looking gowns with the spandex) showing that the Olga company was the manufacturer. The Viola gown has the RN number of 19090 showing although it was made for Vandemere, it was made by the Olga company.
You can alway check this site if the mfg label is missing but the RN number is still there & the majority of the time, the manufacturer will come up- even when they are no longer making clothing.
To which I replied:
Yes, but that still doesn't prove that Olga "sold the designs to Vandermere" -- Vandermere aka JC Penney was a distribution channel for Warnaco, which by 1984 owned all of Olga, so I doubt the designs were sold to Vandermere, but rather the pieces were sold through them.
Marilyn replied:
Olga did not sell the design to Vandemere - Olga manufactured them FOR Vandemere & that is a big difference - that is why Olga's RN number is on some Vandemere gowns.
Olga did not manufacture all of Vandemere gowns as they had their own RN number - just that design.
"so I doubt the designs were sold to Vandermere, but rather the pieces were sold through them." That is correct - they were made by Olga especially for the Vandemere Company.
A number of manufacturers back then made garments for other companies. I had an Intime peignoir set by Intime of California & it was mfgd for Lane Bryant - that is what mfgs did back then & it is actually being done today with appliances & electronics. Although it has their store brand on it, it is made by another well known appliance or electronics company.
As you can see, we agree!
What this comes down to his how you fine the "designs" in "sold designs to". Do you mean "designs" as the intellectual property (i.e. copyrights of pattern designs) or "designs" as actual garments (pieces of inventory); that's the question.
In the case of Olga and Vandermere, we are talking about Olga (then part of Warnaco) having sold actual garments to Vandermere (aka J.C. Penney's); the nightgown designs in terms of patterns & intellectual property remained with Olga (and Warnaco). In which case, Dixie Dallas's statement that "When Olga sold her gown design copyrights, it was to Vandemeer Lingerie" is incorrect.
I hope our little talk helps you discover more about vintage lingerie!
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Wednesday, April 24, 2013
Vikki "The Back" Dougan
Vikki Dougan is so lovely in a sheer black pleated chiffon nightie! And of course it shows off her back! Photos taken by Ralph Crane for Life magazine, circa 1957-1958.
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Bye Bye Mein Herr, Hello Fraulein Annie
The Bye Bye Mein Herr lingerie collection from Fraulein Annie was inspired by the famous opening scene in Cabaret.
What could be better? The fact that this line, and other Fraulein Annie pieces (like the Falling In Love Mulberry set below) are available in cup sizes from A to G (that's not quite A to Z, but pretty damn close!)
Fraulein Annie is appearing in a "pop up" sale (aka temporarily available) at Kiss Me Deadly, with orders over £100 will receive a free Sirena Suspender Belt (while stocks last).
What could be better? The fact that this line, and other Fraulein Annie pieces (like the Falling In Love Mulberry set below) are available in cup sizes from A to G (that's not quite A to Z, but pretty damn close!)
Fraulein Annie is appearing in a "pop up" sale (aka temporarily available) at Kiss Me Deadly, with orders over £100 will receive a free Sirena Suspender Belt (while stocks last).
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June Palmer In A Full Slip
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